Forge is a stronger, more evocative name. It symbolizes the raw process of shaping men through fire, hammer, and anvil—mirroring the transition from puer's raw potential, hero's forging through struggle, to senex's tempered wisdom. The Forge captures brotherhood (shared workshop), mission (crafting purpose), and philosophy (virtue through trial), evoking ancient guilds where men honed excellence together. Or maybe Vulcan who was the Roman master of the Forge, but that has Star Trek connotations. Or Hephaestus, the Greek version, but harder to spell/remember probably for most.
I like this one a lot and had it on an earlier list. My son (19) and his friends weren't as fond of it. I even had combinations, such as Star Forge, I thought were interesting to mix it up. My friend Nathaniel even has a one-year entrepreneurship program called Futures Forge (futuresforge.org), which is successful so far. Maybe I'll toss it back into the mix with them and see if they bite this time.
Everyone has good thoughts so far. What came to mind for me was maybe The Torch Bearers? A combination of holding the light to guide the way, plus passing the torch to the next generation? yours is a worthy project by any name...
Naming things is so hard. I get the impulse behind the first four, but I think they're vague and could apply to anything. What about something like the Art of Manhood? You want to capture a sense that masculinity and manhood matter, that they are valuable and important, and that the evolution from boy to man is something we devalue and neglect or pathologize at our own peril. It harms boys, it harms men, and it harms girls and women too.
I don't see what's wrong with “Bonds of Brotherhood.” However, here are some suggestions: Libertarian Generations, Covenant of the Free, Networks of Liberation.
Are you sure you want to exclude women from the discussion group? If you do, you may lose female subscribers and have trouble getting new ones. There are other reasons to include women. If Isabel Patterson, Rose Wilder Lane, and Ayn Rand were alive, they'd be excluded. There may be other women out there who can potentially publish influential books advocating individual liberty and free markets. Women tend to have different perspectives from those of men on political issues, and their diverse viewpoints may give us troglodytes new and more accurate insights and a wider range of ideas. Also, women seem to be more effective at persuading other women. Besides, adding women increases the number of promoters of liberty. Finally, if you include the fair sex, you may arouse the interest of more guys in your project. I'd find the group more appealing if it included ladies, even though I'm an old fart.
First, this is NOT an Underthrow project. This is a pilot project I'm working on through my job. I'm just asking this community to help with the name.
If this is a successful pilot, we will probably work on building a women's program, too--but women will lead it. We think young men and young women have distinct personal development concerns, especially today.
When my project partner and I pitched this, we pitched it to women. They agreed that young men today can benefit from a specific focus and that a sense of brotherhood will be valuable.
(I have aspirations for building out a co-ed convergence program for 30+ adults, but first things first.)
I voted for Aspirants because it lends to pointing to The Art of Becoming. Ultimately, I don't think a name is necessary or important for now. I've been contemplating this since we talked, and I think the focus could be more on building a team that would strongly facilitate this movement for strong male character, and then let the successful movement name itself. As I said before, I think the key here is to guide a younger set of Aspirants to build the movement and help create the content themselves with the Senex supporting and inspiring from behind, like the way a strong Queen position does in chess. Think Alex Honnold as a leader/spokesperson.
Forge is a stronger, more evocative name. It symbolizes the raw process of shaping men through fire, hammer, and anvil—mirroring the transition from puer's raw potential, hero's forging through struggle, to senex's tempered wisdom. The Forge captures brotherhood (shared workshop), mission (crafting purpose), and philosophy (virtue through trial), evoking ancient guilds where men honed excellence together. Or maybe Vulcan who was the Roman master of the Forge, but that has Star Trek connotations. Or Hephaestus, the Greek version, but harder to spell/remember probably for most.
I like this one a lot and had it on an earlier list. My son (19) and his friends weren't as fond of it. I even had combinations, such as Star Forge, I thought were interesting to mix it up. My friend Nathaniel even has a one-year entrepreneurship program called Futures Forge (futuresforge.org), which is successful so far. Maybe I'll toss it back into the mix with them and see if they bite this time.
Everyone has good thoughts so far. What came to mind for me was maybe The Torch Bearers? A combination of holding the light to guide the way, plus passing the torch to the next generation? yours is a worthy project by any name...
Interesting!
Definitely gonna add this to the list
I voted for Chrysalis, but would prefer "The Chrysalis Project"
I like that too.
Naming things is so hard. I get the impulse behind the first four, but I think they're vague and could apply to anything. What about something like the Art of Manhood? You want to capture a sense that masculinity and manhood matter, that they are valuable and important, and that the evolution from boy to man is something we devalue and neglect or pathologize at our own peril. It harms boys, it harms men, and it harms girls and women too.
Wondering about a hybridization/subtitle approach, such as...
Chrysalis: The Art of Masculinity
Mastery: The Art of Becoming
In any case, integrating the masculine dimension more on-the-nose is probably wise.
Agree! I like the first one!
I don't see what's wrong with “Bonds of Brotherhood.” However, here are some suggestions: Libertarian Generations, Covenant of the Free, Networks of Liberation.
Bonds of Brotherhood didn’t occur to me! Forest/Trees
Are you sure you want to exclude women from the discussion group? If you do, you may lose female subscribers and have trouble getting new ones. There are other reasons to include women. If Isabel Patterson, Rose Wilder Lane, and Ayn Rand were alive, they'd be excluded. There may be other women out there who can potentially publish influential books advocating individual liberty and free markets. Women tend to have different perspectives from those of men on political issues, and their diverse viewpoints may give us troglodytes new and more accurate insights and a wider range of ideas. Also, women seem to be more effective at persuading other women. Besides, adding women increases the number of promoters of liberty. Finally, if you include the fair sex, you may arouse the interest of more guys in your project. I'd find the group more appealing if it included ladies, even though I'm an old fart.
First, this is NOT an Underthrow project. This is a pilot project I'm working on through my job. I'm just asking this community to help with the name.
If this is a successful pilot, we will probably work on building a women's program, too--but women will lead it. We think young men and young women have distinct personal development concerns, especially today.
When my project partner and I pitched this, we pitched it to women. They agreed that young men today can benefit from a specific focus and that a sense of brotherhood will be valuable.
(I have aspirations for building out a co-ed convergence program for 30+ adults, but first things first.)
Sorry. My bad.
Please don't apologize. This is good thinking. It's certainly a question we struggled with early on.
You'll have problems if you want to exclude women, but if you focus on strong Yang energy, then you shouldn't run afoul.
I voted for Aspirants because it lends to pointing to The Art of Becoming. Ultimately, I don't think a name is necessary or important for now. I've been contemplating this since we talked, and I think the focus could be more on building a team that would strongly facilitate this movement for strong male character, and then let the successful movement name itself. As I said before, I think the key here is to guide a younger set of Aspirants to build the movement and help create the content themselves with the Senex supporting and inspiring from behind, like the way a strong Queen position does in chess. Think Alex Honnold as a leader/spokesperson.