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Chris Bateman's avatar

There remain tremendous risks entailed in assuming facts and values can be separated cleanly, but these risks aren't really in the ground you're exploring here. Perhaps the clearest example of an 'ought' emerging from an 'is', which is in the institution of promising. The act of promising (is) provides the obligation of keeping a promise (ought). This can be extended further, and it can only be resisted by restraining the scope of 'is' in ways that are going to undermine the raw force of Hume's argument in the Treatise.

Yet I'd support your attack on 'Trust the Science' with the opposite argument: it is the act of pretending that facts are value-free that creates the illusionary idol of 'The Science'; we are supposed to pretend that we have to do this because of 'facts', which are really the ever-present knot of 'facts and values'. Hilary Putnam makes it clear that scientific process entails values such as like ‘coherence’, ‘simplicity’, ‘elegance’ and ‘rigor’. Values infuse all human endeavour, including the process of establishing facts. It is the attempt to deny this that cause the 'Trust the Science' disaster.

I discuss these issues at length in chapter 2 of my Chaos Ethics. There I note also that Hume's purpose of raising this idea in the Treatise was somewhat different to how we use this idea today, and I also note that he removed it from his later revision, the Enquiry, which says something about his own commitment to the idea. 😉

Finally, I love Hume, and I won't push back on supporting Hume - there's much to be gained from engaging with Hume today! On this particular issue, however, Hume's desire to bait the zealots (which he took impish glee in doing) was riding front and centre. In so much as you are enjoying doing the same, you are well within the spirit of Hume's project. 😁

Disclaimer: this is not an attempt to argue with you, but merely commentary.

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THulsey's avatar

Your distinction between instrumental rationality and morality is perfect. Neither Harris nor Rand get this, although examples are countless.

The cited case of smokers illustrates that some of them place the enjoyment of smoking over the value of long-term health. Similarly, Crusaders in the Middle Ages clearly recognized that food gives strength, yet they routinely fasted before battle; Lincoln knew that medicine can cure diseases, yet he withheld it from Union prisoners in the South for fear it might also heal Confederate soldiers; members of Hamas rationally accept that evacuation from a war zone furthers life, and yet they block the exit of their own citizens in defiance of the humane restriction on war that only soldiers should engage in it. (Do NOT assume any attempt at “moral equivalence” here.)

In short, whatever the rationally accepted “is,” it can always be subordinated in the bewildering ordinality of “oughts” that humans are capable of.

A second distinction is equally important. It is the paradox that subjectivity is the foundation for any normative objectivity.

The Austrian school of economics rejected the crude, ostensibly “objective,” labor theory of value and explicitly referenced David Hume as the foundation of their subjective theory of value. As Austrian Ludwig von Mises demonstrated in his 1920 paper “Economic Calculation in the Socialist Commonwealth,” the paradox is that countless subjective valuations form the only basis for objective market price determinations. This is what the “praxeology” of von Mises is all about.

I apply praxeology to solve the current problems of the state in my own book, The Constitution of Non-State Government (https://www.amazon.com/dp/1947660853) – a book unread and unreviewed despite being submitted to dozens of economists, including Austrians. I simply use the subjective theory of value to update the symbiotic community of Johannes Althusius in the following way: Enlightenment claims of a single universal set of values – claims that founded the current “liberal” state in 1648 – are false, as demonstrated by Hume. The solution is that only a small community of those who share a set of values – completely subjectively, mind you – can approach a semblance of objectivity that can claim status as law.

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