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LEE SCHULTHEISS's avatar

You're certainly doing your part to help it turn out right, Max...

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Daymon Pascual's avatar

Beneficent monarchs/oligarchs/aristocrats are great and usually brought thriving for everyone. It's when the entitle, clever, coke head son comes in after and fucks it all up. That's usually the problem. That's what the checks and balances need to protect against, so far that's not going well or is it?

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Max Borders's avatar

It's a good point. There are prosocial oligarchs.

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Shadow Rebbe's avatar

I feel like the biggest bottleneck is a desire for a change, including the responsibility it entails in maintaining self-sovereignty. I include myself amongst the hobbits who would like peace and tranquility, but hardly have the sharp edge to fight power, and maybe not even enough to want freedom over comfort. It's true that we may lose our comfort, and the virtue of freedom is much more valuable. Still, most people prefer to be employed than entrepreneur.

What I'm getting at is that the most important technology is one about personal development to scale. This comes about through art, but also through educational institutions (churches, therapists, and sometimes a school), that show people their capacity and the value of independence. I'm not sure we have anything that can scale that level of development that would make the Iron Law bend.

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Mike Moschos's avatar

The USA broke our of oligarchy in the 1830s/1840s and a key way that it did it was through the economic and governmental decentralization of banking and finance.

What is little known these days but is provable, is that the decentralization scheme that was established in the 1830s/1840s didnt end with the re-creation of the Fed in 1913, deep centralization didnt come until roughly fifty years after its creation in 1913. The Fed was actually originally created in a decentralized form, it wasnt until 1935 that it was centralized. And then there was pushback after that where for several years it was effectively nullified and its functions placed back into the Treasury. But the real destruction of the Classical American system didnt come until the advent of the so called Neoliberal Era during the latter 1960s to mid 1980s when the geographic, societal, and sectoral capital diffusers -- the strongest pieces of which were outside of the central bank policy and were their own constructs -- were destroyed, and those diffusers were the most key decentralizing mechanisms in banking/finance

There were other key ways we avoided centralization for hundreds of years, but banking and finance was a necessary key. In fact, Elite Theory was actually torn apart in American discourse when it first made the rounds in the early 20th century. Because the American Old Republic both disproves its inevitability and proves a cognitively superior governance architecture based around democracy. The pre-centralization United States had deeply decentralized political, economic, scientific, and institutional structures with a political system dominated by decentralized and publicly accessible mass member parties that allowed for widespread participation

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Sher Griffin's avatar

I can’t get Judas Priest out of my head now. Thanks!

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